sujet en partie abordé ici :

http://www.forumpassat.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?id=8063

une marche a suivre pour trouver d'ou vient le pb a été écrite par Chris : )

j'ai fait un passage au vagcom je vous poste les resultats sachant qu'avant j'avais debranché puis rebranché la prise du debimètre et que j'ai le temoin d'usure de plaquettes de frein allumé.

que pensez vous des valeurs moteur tournant au ralenti boite tiptronic sur P .

d'avance merci.

voilà , j'ai essayé d'agrandir un peu mais pas evident avec l'hebergeur , grrr , ou sinon si quelqun veut bien y jeter un oeil , je lui envoie par mail ou mp .

merki;)

ah ok , desolé mais je ne l'avais pas vu

le filtre à gazole a à peine 10.000 bornes , c'est beaucoup ?

changé il y a 1 semaine en meme temps que la vidange moteur + boite

Il ne sert à rien de faire certaines mesures de groupes si tu ne respectes pas les conditions de tests. Exemple les groupes 10 et 11 qui devraient t'en dire plus, ça se fait à pleine charge, pas au ralenti. Enregistrer les données et coller le fichier CSV sur une feuille d'un tableur ensuite tu peux la poster.

Au ralenti il semble qu'il y ait une mesure de recyclage des gaz qui ne soit pas dans les normes (groupe 03) si ton moteur tournait depuis un moment au ralenti ca peut être normal, il faudrait donner quelques coups d'accélérateur pour réactiver le recyclage ou couper le moteur et refaire la mesure (ou alors tu as fais la mesure avec le débitmètre débranché).

oué j'ai vu après qu'il fallait le faire en roulant mais trop tard , j'avais rendu le pc à mon pote, et oui la voiture etait bien au ralenti , moteur chaud .

donc il faudarait que je refasse le test mais en roulant ?

voici un pti log :
Sunday,16,August,2009,20:19:25
3B0 907 401 J  ,, 2.5l/4VTEDC G000AG  D65 ,

,Group A:,'010,,,,Group B:,'011,,,,Group C:, Not Running
,,MAF,Atmo. press,Intake press.,Throttle,,Engine speed,Spec. intake press.,Actual intake press,N75 duty cycle,,,,,
,TIME,>750,,1900-2300,100%,TIME,2900-4000,1900-2300 mbar,1900-2300 mbar,,TIME,,,,
MARKER,STAMP, mg/R, mbar, mbar,%,STAMP, /min, mbar, mbar, %,STAMP,,,,

,0.74,478.9,969.0,1009.8,0.0,0.34,742,1030.2,1009.8,85.2,,,,,
,1.54,482.8,969.0,1009.8,0.0,1.14,742,1030.2,1009.8,85.2,,,,,
,2.34,482.8,969.0,1009.8,0.0,1.94,742,1030.2,1009.8,85.2,,,,,
,3.14,478.9,969.0,1009.8,0.0,2.74,742,1030.2,1009.8,85.2,,,,,
,3.94,420.0,969.0,1009.8,18.0,3.54,766,1183.2,1009.8,85.2,,,,,
,4.74,435.7,969.0,1040.4,21.2,4.34,1206,1152.6,1030.2,82.9,,,,,
,5.52,404.3,969.0,1081.2,26.3,5.14,1369,1285.2,1060.8,78.1,,,,,
,6.32,392.5,969.0,1132.2,38.4,5.92,1531,1315.8,1111.8,85.2,,,,,
,7.12,396.4,969.0,1305.6,43.9,6.72,2065,1662.6,1203.6,65.5,,,,,
,7.92,400.4,969.0,1509.6,46.7,7.52,2529,1856.4,1387.2,67.1,,,,,
,8.72,447.5,969.0,1693.2,66.7,8.32,2598,1999.2,1642.2,68.6,,,,,
,9.52,459.2,969.0,1754.4,80.8,9.12,2506,2019.6,1713.6,67.1,,,,,
,10.32,439.6,969.0,1693.2,100.0,9.92,2390,2009.4,1713.6,70.2,,,,,
,11.12,423.9,969.0,1734.0,100.0,10.72,2575,2029.8,1703.4,70.2,,,,,
,11.92,443.5,969.0,1825.8,100.0,11.52,2854,2040.0,1785.0,66.3,,,,,
,12.72,439.6,969.0,1662.6,100.0,12.32,2204,1999.2,1764.6,70.2,,,,,
,13.52,435.7,969.0,1652.4,100.0,13.12,2366,2009.4,1642.2,70.2,,,,,
,14.32,431.8,969.0,1703.4,100.0,13.92,2529,2029.8,1672.8,68.6,,,,,
,15.12,427.8,969.0,1795.2,87.1,14.72,2668,2040.0,1754.4,67.9,,,,,
,15.92,420.0,969.0,1866.6,56.1,15.52,2830,2040.0,1836.0,67.1,,,,,
,16.72,369.0,969.0,1489.2,26.7,16.32,2946,1815.6,1723.8,70.2,,,,,
,17.52,333.6,969.0,1234.2,0.0,17.12,2993,1693.2,1366.8,70.2,,,,,
,18.32,314.0,969.0,1050.6,0.0,17.92,2854,1632.0,1101.6,50.1,,,,,
,19.12,314.0,969.0,1020.0,0.0,18.72,2807,1611.6,1030.2,50.1,,,,,
,19.92,314.0,969.0,1009.8,0.0,19.52,2714,1570.8,1009.8,50.1,,,,,
,20.72,333.6,969.0,1091.4,100.0,20.32,2714,1825.8,999.6,70.2,,,,,
,21.52,357.2,969.0,1305.6,100.0,21.12,2877,2050.2,1213.8,67.1,,,,,
,22.32,365.0,969.0,1448.4,100.0,21.92,3039,2060.4,1387.2,69.4,,,,,
,23.12,361.1,969.0,1540.2,100.0,22.72,3202,2080.8,1509.6,69.0,,,,,
,23.92,353.3,969.0,1601.4,100.0,23.52,3364,2111.4,1581.0,69.4,,,,,
,24.72,341.5,969.0,1642.2,100.0,24.30,3526,2121.6,1621.8,69.4,,,,,
,25.52,314.0,969.0,1417.8,28.2,25.10,3666,2091.0,1652.4,59.2,,,,,
,26.32,286.5,969.0,1162.8,0.0,25.92,3689,1693.2,1346.4,46.9,,,,,
,27.12,274.8,969.0,1030.2,0.0,26.72,3619,1693.2,1071.0,47.3,,,,,
,27.92,274.8,969.0,1009.8,0.0,27.52,3596,1693.2,1020.0,47.7,,,,,
,28.72,278.7,969.0,1009.8,0.0,28.32,3526,1693.2,1009.8,47.7,,,,,
,29.52,286.5,969.0,1009.8,0.0,29.12,3457,1693.2,1009.8,48.1,,,,,
,30.33,290.4,969.0,1009.8,0.0,29.92,3294,1693.2,1009.8,48.9,,,,,
,31.15,298.3,969.0,999.6,0.0,30.75,3132,1693.2,1009.8,49.7,,,,,
,32.00,302.2,969.0,999.6,0.0,31.58,2993,1693.2,1009.8,50.1,,,,,
,32.80,325.8,969.0,1091.4,100.0,32.40,2970,1815.6,999.6,70.2,,,,,
,33.58,345.4,969.0,1315.8,100.0,33.18,3109,2070.6,1213.8,66.3,,,,,
,34.40,349.3,969.0,1448.4,100.0,33.98,3248,2091.0,1397.4,69.4,,,,,
,35.20,349.3,969.0,1540.2,63.5,34.80,3387,2111.4,1499.4,68.6,,,,,
,36.01,341.5,969.0,1581.0,100.0,35.60,3526,2121.6,1560.6,70.2,,,,,
,36.80,333.6,969.0,1621.8,100.0,36.40,3642,2121.6,1601.4,69.4,,,,,
,37.60,290.4,969.0,1162.8,0.0,37.18,3666,1693.2,1438.2,46.9,,,,,
,38.40,278.7,969.0,1030.2,0.0,38.00,3596,1693.2,1071.0,47.3,,,,,
,39.20,274.8,969.0,1009.8,0.0,38.80,3596,1693.2,1020.0,47.7,,,,,
,40.01,278.7,969.0,1009.8,0.0,39.60,3550,1693.2,1009.8,47.7,,,,,
,40.80,278.7,979.2,1009.8,0.0,40.40,3526,1693.2,1009.8,47.7,,,,,
,41.60,278.7,979.2,999.6,0.0,41.20,3503,1693.2,1009.8,48.1,,,,,
,42.40,278.7,969.0,999.6,0.0,42.00,3457,1693.2,999.6,48.1,,,,,
,43.18,286.5,969.0,999.6,0.0,42.80,3434,1693.2,999.6,48.5,,,,,
,43.98,286.5,979.2,999.6,0.0,43.58,3364,1693.2,999.6,48.5,,,,,
,44.78,286.5,979.2,999.6,0.0,44.38,3341,1693.2,999.6,48.5,,,,,
,45.58,286.5,979.2,999.6,0.0,45.18,3318,1693.2,999.6,48.9,,,,,
,46.43,290.4,979.2,999.6,0.0,46.01,3294,1693.2,999.6,48.9,,,,,
,47.24,290.4,979.2,989.4,0.0,46.84,3248,1693.2,999.6,48.9,,,,,
,48.06,290.4,979.2,989.4,0.0,47.66,3225,1693.2,989.4,49.3,,,,,
,48.86,294.4,979.2,989.4,0.0,48.46,3178,1693.2,999.6,49.3,,,,,
,49.66,294.4,979.2,999.6,0.0,49.26,3155,1693.2,999.6,49.3,,,,,
,50.51,302.2,979.2,1040.4,40.0,50.09,3155,1693.2,989.4,53.3,,,,,
,51.32,337.6,979.2,1326.0,100.0,50.92,3294,2091.0,1203.6,67.5,,,,,
,52.14,341.5,979.2,1468.8,100.0,51.74,3434,2111.4,1407.6,69.8,,,,,
,52.94,317.9,979.2,1397.4,0.0,52.54,3573,2121.6,1509.6,68.3,,,,,
,53.74,290.4,979.2,1060.8,0.0,53.34,3457,1693.2,1162.8,48.1,,,,,
,54.54,290.4,979.2,1050.6,76.9,54.14,3410,1693.2,1030.2,48.5,,,,,
,55.34,325.8,979.2,1366.8,100.0,54.94,3550,2121.6,1234.2,66.3,,,,,
,56.14,329.7,979.2,1509.6,100.0,55.74,3642,2121.6,1448.4,69.0,,,,,
,56.94,329.7,979.2,1581.0,100.0,56.54,3735,2121.6,1550.4,69.0,,,,,
,57.74,321.9,979.2,1621.8,100.0,57.34,3828,2121.6,1601.4,70.2,,,,,
,58.54,317.9,979.2,1632.0,100.0,58.14,3898,2121.6,1632.0,69.0,,,,,
,59.34,314.0,979.2,1652.4,100.0,58.94,3990,2121.6,1642.2,70.2,,,,,
,60.14,310.1,979.2,1683.0,100.0,59.74,4060,2121.6,1662.6,69.8,,,,,
,60.94,302.2,979.2,1703.4,100.0,60.54,4153,2111.4,1693.2,69.4,,,,,
,61.74,302.2,979.2,1723.8,100.0,61.34,4222,2101.2,1713.6,69.4,,,,,
,62.54,380.7,979.2,1611.6,100.0,62.14,3062,2060.4,1662.6,70.2,,,,,
,63.34,317.9,979.2,1152.6,0.0,62.94,2993,1693.2,1377.0,50.1,,,,,
,64.14,317.9,979.2,1040.4,0.0,63.74,2900,1652.4,1071.0,50.1,,,,,
,64.94,325.8,979.2,1020.0,0.0,64.54,2691,1560.6,1030.2,50.1,,,,,
,65.74,321.9,979.2,1020.0,0.0,65.34,2459,1468.8,1020.0,50.1,,,,,
,66.54,321.9,979.2,1009.8,0.0,66.14,2436,1458.6,1009.8,50.1,,,,,
,67.34,329.7,979.2,1009.8,0.0,66.94,2436,1458.6,1009.8,50.1,,,,,
,68.14,329.7,979.2,1009.8,0.0,67.74,2366,1428.0,1009.8,50.1,,,,,
,68.94,333.6,979.2,1009.8,0.0,68.54,2274,1407.6,1009.8,50.1,,,,,
,69.74,294.4,979.2,969.0,0.0,69.34,2761,1591.2,989.4,50.1,,,,,
,70.54,314.0,979.2,1071.0,100.0,70.14,3109,1805.4,989.4,70.2,,,,,
,71.32,341.5,979.2,1326.0,100.0,70.94,3248,2091.0,1213.8,66.3,,,,,
,72.12,349.3,979.2,1479.0,100.0,71.73,3341,2101.2,1407.6,69.0,,,,,
,72.93,345.4,979.2,1560.6,100.0,72.54,3457,2121.6,1530.0,69.0,,,,,
,73.73,337.6,979.2,1601.4,100.0,73.33,3573,2121.6,1581.0,69.8,,,,,
,74.53,333.6,979.2,1632.0,100.0,74.13,3689,2121.6,1611.6,70.2,,,,,
,75.32,400.4,979.2,1611.6,100.0,74.93,3782,2121.6,1632.0,70.2,,,,,
,76.12,396.4,979.2,1550.4,66.7,75.72,2807,2040.0,1550.4,69.4,,,,,
,76.93,337.6,979.2,1213.8,0.0,76.52,2830,1632.0,1479.0,65.1,,,,,
,77.73,321.9,979.2,1050.6,0.0,77.33,2761,1591.2,1091.4,50.1,,,,,
,78.53,317.9,979.2,1020.0,0.0,78.13,2714,1570.8,1030.2,50.1,,,,,
,79.33,317.9,979.2,1009.8,0.0,78.93,2691,1560.6,1009.8,50.1,,,,,
,80.13,321.9,979.2,1009.8,0.0,79.73,2668,1550.4,1009.8,50.1,,,,,
,80.93,321.9,979.2,1009.8,0.0,80.53,2598,1519.8,1009.8,50.1,,,,,
,81.73,321.9,979.2,1009.8,0.0,81.33,2575,1509.6,1009.8,50.1,,,,,
,82.53,321.9,979.2,999.6,0.0,82.13,2552,1499.4,1009.8,50.1,,,,,
,83.36,321.9,979.2,1009.8,0.0,82.95,2552,1499.4,1009.8,50.1,,,,,
,84.18,357.2,979.2,1030.2,0.0,83.78,2343,1428.0,1009.8,50.1,,,,,
,85.00,353.3,979.2,999.6,0.0,84.60,1879,1275.0,1009.8,30.0,,,,,
,85.80,353.3,979.2,989.4,0.0,85.41,1879,1275.0,989.4,30.0,,,,,
,86.60,353.3,979.2,989.4,0.0,86.20,1879,1264.8,989.4,30.0,,,,,
,87.41,369.0,979.2,999.6,0.0,87.01,1833,1264.8,989.4,30.0,,,,,
,88.20,333.6,979.2,979.2,0.0,87.81,2250,1397.4,969.0,49.7,,,,,

quelqu'un arriverait il à decrypter tout ça ? merki

merci pour le lien , j'essaye de vous joindre les courbes :

http://vaglog.vag-technique.fr/users/an … -43-54.png

dites moi ce que vous en pensez svp.
je viens de faire 300 bornes avec et dans les montées , j'en chie grave , ne serait ce pas le turbo en cause ?

desolé de faire le boulet mais avec excel , j'ai beaucoup de mal , vous l'aurez surement remarqué !quelqu'un peut il m'aider si je lui envoie le fichier ?
merci d'avance.

qu'entends tu par deconner ?